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OK, sometimes 'they're both from the same country, they must be the same person' *is* valid
james_nicoll
I think this has reached the point where nothing new on any side is going to get said and I would like to reclaim 'recent comments' for other subjects so I will be freezing this when I get home tonight

This might affect the author's rebranding except as far as I can tell editors already knew and didn't care.

Does anyone remember what, if any, repercussions there were from Blish revealing himself to be noted critical gadfly William Aethling, Jr.?

I have no idea what Nick means by shenanigans but this bit?
Unfortunately it means no Hugos or Campbells for her.

The odds of her winning a Not a Hugo Campbell Award were always slim because authors get exactly two rolls of the dice for that one but there's the other Not a Hugo Campbell for the novel John W. Campbell would have been least likely to buy while alive and I can assure you if Campbell ever bought a story from a woman from Asia, I am completely unaware of it.

The Hugo, who knows? There was a lot of cane-shaking at Rowling for sullying the grand traditions of our genre with books the general public actually wanted to read and yet she got a rocket.

[A note: due to problems with spam, I have to personally unscreen all anonymous comments and since it is Thanksgiving I cannot promise to be superdiligent about doing that for the next couple of days]

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I'm disturbed by how the thrust of your argument mainly seems to be "it wasn't that bad".

Perhaps she didn't tell me she was going to show up on my doorstep to kill me. I am appalled that such is your benchmark for bullying and intimidation however. She made me afraid to talk about books -- books, for crying out loud -- because she disliked them and I would be branded a shitstain and worse for disagreeing. She made me feel unsafe in certain communities including those that were created to support people like me. She made me reluctant to express support for certain authors of color. Because of her I chose (and I will own this choice of mine to keep not) not to use my voice as fully as I wanted to.

No, I don't feel remorse for saying these things. But note that this is not me haranguing her. If it were it would be loaded with a desire to hurt the way that she has hurt others. Some measure of actual force. This is just me saying that I felt silenced because of her. Silenced and ashamed. But of course this is all part of lies and dogpiling and I'm part of a mob that's been whipped up by some vengeful author. Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that accountability matters especially to those of us who are on the margins. That now that others are speaking up, some feel we've found our voices as well.

The people she's hurt and driven out of fandom, do they not matter? Or is it only the people she's misled in her new identity that deserve apologies? Is cruelty forgivable if it was just done for the lulz? If it happened years ago?

This is getting upsetting and I suspect your reply will make me want to give up on things entirely. I'm bowing out.
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