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Those darned Leftists
james_nicoll
Controlling everything

Includes accounts of Clarion that are surprisingly sexual-assault free, given the other Tales of Clarion I've heard.

Also posted at Dreamwidth, where there are comment count unavailable comment(s); comment here or there.

First, we take Clarion. Then we take Berlin!

(applauds Leonard Cohen reference) (because it isn't to Hallelujah)

During the week he spent at Clarion, Tom [Disch] distributed a story of his own called “Planet of the Rapes,” a delightfully contrarian fable about a dystopian order where sex partners are assigned by the state and young women are methodically raped upon reaching maturity.


I can't even. I can't. I have lost the will to can.

Meanwhile, more and more, I started hearing from conservative authors asking if I would look at their novels. I read quite a few of these, and while some of them were awful, many others were entertaining and well done. But they didn’t rise to the level of proficiency required for mass-market publication, and no sectarian market existed for conservative-themed fiction. So I suggested they self-publish, making use of the new digital-distribution technologies.
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Andrew didn’t live to see it, but conservatives are making their own culture.

Consisting of novels too bad to publish.

He uses an interesting definition of the word delightfully.

Wow, I hadn't thought of that story in years! James, is short fiction eligible for the "My Tears Are Delicious to You" offer?

EDIT: I thought I'd read it in a Carr YB, which would be a rare lapse in judgment for Carr. I am delighted to learn that it in fact appeared in zero YB anthologies; I must have read it in The Man Who Had No Idea.

Edited at 2014-07-08 08:07 pm (UTC)

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How fucking delightful. What an uproarious satire. Why, it's practically Swiftian!

Oh, wait. Swift was actually Irish.

But they didn’t rise to the level of proficiency required for mass-market publication

I feel this pretty much speaks for itself.

During the week he spent at Clarion, Tom [Disch] distributed a story of his own called “Planet of the Rapes,” a delightfully contrarian fable about a dystopian order where sex partners are assigned by the state and young women are methodically raped upon reaching maturity.

Wait, so his claim to notoriety is writing a worse and shorter version of The Handmaid's Tale?

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Since they went to Clarion in different years, I'm not totally surprised on that front.

As to the overall piece, I'm always amused when someone talks about Heinlein as someone who kept his politics (wherever they might be that year) at only a secondary level in his fiction.

It looks like there were at least two Pauls in Bellow's class.

Also, this is the same guy who published The Bell Curve and The Real Anita Hill. He is literally the least credible person on the planet for anything.

Oh, come on! The Bell Curve was the funniest satire on psychology and sociology since Walden Two!

Talk about fighting the previous war

mme_hardy

2014-07-08 04:14 pm (UTC)

From the comments:

"How many music pieces promote family values - as opposed to those that encourage values counter to family values (a good example of this is the very popular "In My Merry Oldsmobile, whose time was 110 years ago). "

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You can find the lyrics on Wikipedia, if you're curious.

“She is the queen of his gas machine”!

For what imprint does this bozo edit?

One inquires because this fellow is a poor writer.

Edited to add that one doubts highly that Eileen Gunn, for instance, member of that class, disliked Joanna Russ.

Love, C.

Edited at 2014-07-08 04:25 pm (UTC)

Saul's kid. Definite lack of Rebellion against the Father.

Someone on Crooked Timber noticed that Saul Bellow was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature while his son was attending Clarion.

"Conservatives must beware of taking too literally their own free-market dogma."


Wow.


My favorite Adam Bellow fact: he wrote this book.

I suppose it's like being Milton Friedman's son: how does a son measure up to a father whose nail-clippings had more talent than he ever will, but also lacks the internal vigor to find his own identity?

The first paragraph of that review is pure magic. Don't hold back, John Homans--tell us what you really think.

Oooh, burn! Someone here once noted that Friedman the Lesser lacked enough self-awareness to realize how just miserable his life really is.

People are getting fed up with the humorless enforcers of the Left.

... like the the ones from the Right have a sense of humor? geez.

I also thought his profile of Russ was all angry humorless lesbian prattle. Why is it that men think that Lesbians have no sense of humor and are angry all the time with the Patriarchy? Stereotypes run rampant here.

...and the 60s mention... the counter revolution was against the system .. that White Male Entitlement and lack of .... arrghh...

plus that self publishing is for conservatives! No one else will put anything out there of value! plus that anything epubbed wouldnt be touched by proper publishers. If he felt so strongly about some of those books, why didnt he give them editioral comments to make it a book that would be accepted?


"like the the ones from the Right have a sense of humor?"

For a laughing-at-liberal-falling-into-a-well-and-dying-or-Obama-portrayed-as-an-ape value of humor, probably.

My brain is seriously too dead right now to make any intelligent response, which is a shame, because that article was all kinds of whacky. So I will say "HA HA, CONSERVATIVES YOU ARE DUMB!" in a Simpsons Milhouse voice and then I will go away.

With my general caveat of *Not All Conservatives.

Point of order: Pretty sure you mean Nelson rather than Millhouse.
(yes, that's the most intelligent thing my brain can manage right now)

Edited at 2014-07-09 03:24 pm (UTC)

Includes accounts of Clarion that are surprisingly sexual-assault free, given the other Tales of Clarion I've heard.

Tales? Following your link I see a tale -- A Clockwork Clarion.

In A Clockwork Clarion M J Locke writes "Clarion is one of the best workshops out there, and this post is not a condemnation of the workshop, nor the people who run it. Neither the administrators nor the instructors had advance notice of the skit. It’s my opinion that this could have happened at any workshop, under the right circumstances."

You seem to be saying sexual assault is the norm at Clarion workshops. But your cite doesn't support this very serious accusation.

That's not the only account I've heard of people being harassed at Clarion, although it is the only one for which I have a link.


*wails* Oh, why... why did I follow those links? The 'conservative' culture raising? Liberals killed humour? Oh... my eyeballs.

-m