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Something I wonder whenever his songs come up
james_nicoll
Could someone who looked like Jim Croce have a big singing career today? The people I see go by in music videos seem to spend more points on comeliness than singers did in the 1970s.




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You forget that there were *plenty* of singers that made their bucks by looking good in the 1970s. Luckily, most of them are not remembered that much today.

1971 - Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheepy



That's Rock and Roll



(Ok, Shaun Cassidy has since made his name in film production, but I have not heard either of these two songs played since they first came out. For small mercies we are eternally grateful)

And to think I had a crush on that boy when I was about thirteen. Eep.

It depends what kind of career you want. He couldn't be a pop star, but there are people who come up through indie music, who miss pretty by a wide margin and still seem to be doing pretty well.

Of course you can't be a woman and non-pretty even in indie music. That's just crazy talk.

Yes, just look at Liam Gallagher and especially Thom Yorke. And then ask yourself what kind of hope for a career a woman of similar looks could have in indie rock.

If Croce hadn't died who knows what effects an extended career might have had on the music business.

Eh, probably not much. Jimmy Buffet hanging around for 40 years didn't stop Britney Spears from appearing.

I can't tell if it is that my hearing is going, or if I am finally headed to codgerdom (at 43), but all these new musicians kind of sound the same. Almost as though whatever hit television reality game show produced them just made everyone just like all the other pop stars. I listen to (against my will) three different radio stations - pop (top 40), heavy metal (pop with a growl), and country (pop with a drawl); mostly, they all sound the same. (before you ask, I'm a mom and rarely exercise control over the car radio)

Or, as I've grumped, "When did it become popular for singers to all sound like depressed mosquitoes?"

I'm 45. Welcome to Curmudgeonville.

Croce looks remarkably like Dave Grohl to me.



Grohl is worth about 225 million dollars, so I'd say Croce's looks wouldn't stand in his way today.


Croce would need to trim the pornstache back a bit, but yes.

Jim would have done just fine in any era, he was that talented. Here's a cover by Seth Avett (who I saw at the Winnipeg Folk Festival last week) that's shows the kids these days are still alright:


I missed them* but they were getting great reviews from everyone who saw them on mainstage.

* I missed most of the acts I had planned on catching. i.e. Patrick Watson

I don't know the answer to your question, but you certainly could have chosen a song of his that doesn't raise horrendous memories of a TV movie Love Story knockoff which scarred my childhood forever (She Lives!, 1973 -- Season Hubley starred opposite Desi Arnaz, Jr.).

This one?

Wow, didn't remember much beyond the chorus. I think the Racism Fairy has been there.

Ok, I didn't listen to the lyrics on this one but it's a similar set up.

De gustibus non disputandum, James. I always thought he was kind of cute.

But no, he's not a teen heart-throb type. Nor was he one back then.


This is where I was going. I remember my libido from that time - and he is a very tasty specimen of manhood indeed. Remember, all the men had massive amounts of unruly hair on their heads, and mustaches you could hide a buick in, and I must say that I am glad my SOGP has kept the side burns and moustache (top hair long gone), because I still think they are spiffy.

Also, when Croce smiles, he looks very appealing, doesn't he? :)

But he's CUTE.

The other day, following a link from my Pinterest page (which is primarily devoted to cats, knitting, and gardening -- staid old lady stuff), I ended up at a gay porn tumblr. My, wasn't THAT interesting ...

What I discovered was that bemuscled dudes with tats, looking extremely solid and masculine, don't appeal to me at all. I need porn that features slim guys with spectacles, holding a book. An *interesting* book.

I think it's not that much of a problem? Media people have gotten very good at matching appearance with an image, like matching an unusual tie with a shirt, and the stylists are brilliant.

But Croce was a not unhandsome man to begin with.

A lot of female singers who aren't considered "conventionally" attractive make it chiefly because of their talent, like Adele. There's also kd lang, Tracy Chapman, Joy Walker of the Civil Wars (not ugly, but a little offbeat looking), Queen Latifah, Regina Spektor, etc. None of them are unattractive women per se, but none of them conform to the sort of looks that lead to Taylor Swift modeling for cosmetics ads. (I love, though, that Queen Latifah also has cosmetics ads. She's like the anti-Taylor Swift.)

This comment makes me sad because I find both Queen Latifa and Adele absolutely gorgeous.

Much of Croce's presumed unattractiveness is the adherence to 1970s fashion and style. Give him a 2013 look and he'd be as "acceptable" as anyone else.

As much as everyone loves them, I doubt either Franklin Bruno or John Darnielle would qualify as "conventionally attractive" and both seem to be doing swell for their genre.

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