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james_nicoll
William Alexander reviews Orson Scott Card's modernized and updated version of Hamlet.

Also posted at Dreamwidth, where there are comment count unavailable comment(s); comment here or there.

:: makes a really FRESH batch of popcorn::

::clicks::


I'm betting that the whole " That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs. ..." conversation is gone gone gone.
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" "Some acts are always right," he insists. "And some are always wrong."

Who are you, and what have you done with Hamlet?
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Wow. OSC never fails to amaze.

The one thing I would quibble with in Alexander's review is, "Shakespeare himself was probably queer." Shakespeare lived some 400 years ago, we don't know that much about him. He may well have been gay (though he was married with children), but hanging that conclusion on a few sonnets seems dicey.
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we dont even know that he existed as a real person, he was a he, or that he was even a person, singular.
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If, just before he dies, it turns out that Orson Scott Card was the gayest of gay in the deepest of closets, will anyone really be surprised?
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I don't think there's much question of that. If you read his essays about his BYU time, not to mention his babbling about how gays have to be punished because gay sex is so much more attractive to men than het, it's fairly transparent.

I don't think that all homophobes are homosexual, but Card, oh yes.
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Someone here (I think) once linked to this: Same-Sex Dynamics Among Nineteenth-Century Americans: A Mormon Example.

That's one long footnote 51.
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Wow, Card is charting new lows for brain-eaten SF authors.
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Card regularly plumbs the bottle of the barrel of HUMANS.

I mean, seriously, the dude is only famous because of his three-book paean to the glory of Adolf Hitler and how Mormonism would have vindicated Hitler and made him better.
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I must now conclude that James is making up for the lack of a Monday in this week.
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Naah. It has to be April 1st today.
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I'm waiting for the one where that Muslim sumbitch Othello deserved to die.
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Where's the "what is this I don't even" key?
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On my computer it's round, on the upper right part of the keyboard (above the key that controls the CD/DVD tray, the disk-eject key ya know) and it has a 3/4 circle with a gap at the top occupied by a straight up-and-down line.

I push it and then I go vacuum or something. Works like a charm.
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I look forward to Orson Scott Card's adaptations 'Romeo and Juliet, a tale of teen abstinence' and 'Othello, a Terrorist in Venice'.
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Cymbeline, A Wacky Comedy of Errors

Coriolanus the Democrat

The Most Lamentable Tragedy of Promiscuity in a Midsummer's Night
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Why didn't the reviewer put "Please Don't" before the green button "Buy this book on Amazon"??
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Maybe it's a fake, the link actually goes to a genuine edition of the play? (I live in hope.)
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa - oh. I'm sorry. Were you expecting rational comment? I leave that to your other posters, all of them far more lucid and entertaining than I.

Now, if you'll pardon me, I have work to - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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I found a 1985 interview with Card where he describes it as "my perverse spin". Card isn't claiming that this is the REAL meaning of Hamlet; he intended the thing to be a riff, a la Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. So, FWIW, he isn't saying "This is the real Hamlet", or "This is the New Hamlet", but "This is one possible reuse of the tropes."

A way way icky one, IMHO, but not quite the same as Bowdlerization.

http://www.biblio.com/unbound/2008/7/osc.html
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No need to be fair at all

keithmm

2011-09-07 03:39 pm (UTC)

So, there's not a chance that in the 26 years between interview and publication, things might have changed a bit in intent?
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"She killed herself. Walked out into the sea, dressed in her heaviest gown. A funeral gown. Two soldiers went in after her, and a boat was launched, but when they brought her body back, she was dead."
"And for that he wants to kill me?"

I never realized before that Hamlet's first language was Yiddish.
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The book can only be improved by adding "oy gevalt" to all of Hamlet's lines.

Now I want to see the original soliloquies translated into Yiddish. Paging sovay....
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