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Breaking one of my guidelines
james_nicoll
Generally once I've banned someone I try not to mention them but the comments that I assume led to this essay are just so very special.

Note 1: Ta-Nehisi Coates is not the person I banned and it is not his comments to which I refer.

Note 2: The Glen Beck: Heir of MLK thing was mentioned in the context of WS using Malcolm X's corpse as a hand-puppet.

Note 3: You need javascript on to see the comments.

Disqus (Used on TNC's blog) is possibly one of the worst comment management packages you can buy.

I am also proud of myself for not breaking my "do not engage" rule in that thread. The temptation was great, but venting in private is probably better for everyone.

I noticed that! I was very impressed. Although I was also maybe a bit disappointed that nobody said DNFTT anywhere, even though that's been said recently with less provocation.

And I want to know who kept clicking "like" on those comments so I can pre-emptively ban them.

Will always starts really small.

*Blink, Blink*

How long have you been waiting to make a comment like that with that icon!?

It took perfect, er, crackerjack timing.

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Plausible deniability. I didn't say it to him, and about 3 other bozos had similar arguments about other things they wanted a dead guy to say for them.

Disqus (Used on TNC's blog) is possibly one of the worst comment management packages you can buy.

It was also, the last time I looked (admittedly about three years ago) the only package one could find that did threaded conversations and did not mandate reverse chronological comment display. Has better stuff that meets these two criteria finally appeared?

I think I could make a strong case that Ta-Nehisi Coates is the best public intellectual currently writing in America. The raw brainpower and empathy he brings, and the curiosity.

Watching a troll like WS try to insinuate himself into Coates' comment threads, e.g.:
I was with you up to the comparison with Barack Obama. Malcolm X had very harsh things to say about capitalism and good things to say about socialists. Barack Obama, in many ways, continues the neoliberal policies of his predecessor. In Malcolm X's terms, Obama is a house-- Hmm. Do you have a policy on the n-word here?
a) is a good reminder of what a loathsome human being WS is, and b) Coates' response is like Galactus versus a cockroach.

Of course, TNC's commenters are, how does he put? awesome sauce. I loved this parody:
I think that Malcolm X would have coached this team completely differently if he were alive today.

Phht. Lombardi would have called publicly called him an armchair quarterb...hmmm. I don't frequent these football threads, because I'm a girl and very weak. But what is your policy on the Q word?
And TNC isn't even letting his love for the Cowboys blind him to their (obvious, manifold) faults. That's *hard*.

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The community's so good largely because TNC is so diligent about cultivating and weeding it. Being willing to shut down a thread that's been hijacked by a pest is part of it.

I think I could make a strong case that Ta-Nehisi Coates is the best public intellectual currently writing in America. The raw brainpower and empathy he brings, and the curiosity.

Seconded.



Generally once I've banned someone I try not to mention them

You must not try terribly hard then. But I guess it's been a while since you had a good game of Let's You And Him Fight, so I reckon you must be feeling a bit twitchy.

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Did I mention my not-so-sekrit plan to get him to Readercon?

How is this plan going, if I might ask?

Slowly, but he's expressed interest, at least. rosefox is programming head for the next one, so she'll probably exert what influence she can.

I have little hearts and flowers coming out of my brain now.

That would be awesome.

Is this part of some sort of larger bid to get fewer people to go to Readercon?


Either you misunderstood me and thought I was talking about inviting WS, or you think Ta-Nehisi Coats would discourage people from attending, or some third option I can't understand (sarcasm?). Can you clear that up? Then I can answer your rather odd question.

I thought you were talking of inviting WS.

Ah. No. The person I was responding to wrote a comment in praise of Coates, so the "him" in question was implicit in my response to that particular comment.

Ow ow ow. Not having been around when you did the banning, I didn't quite understand the sentiment here concerning this person. I now do. Much to my reget.

Who had that brain-bleach icon? I finally feel a truly serious need for it. If you have any to spare.

I have this Dettol-and-a-wire-brush icon. Will it do?

...That was WS?

I saw the post, clicked back to see what the deal was, saw that WS was posting and escaped posthaste. I didn't realize that I had, in fact, figured out what the deal was.

James, your LJ is wonderful in all kinds of ways. I'm a man whose consumption of SF/F is somewhat light but still enjoys both genres. You and your commentators are thus really good for both pointing out good authors and also providing a barometer of, "Avoid [Author]; you'll be putting money in the pocket of a morally loathsome person."

Which is kind of sad, in this case, because [Author] wrote a couple of decent (if lightweight) fantasy novels, and an SF novel that Did Things of an interesting nature to the earlier fantasy novel. I haven't reread any of them in a while; worried now that the Suck Fairy (thank you, papersky) has visited them while I wasn't looking.

Wow, he lasted longer than I expected, having seen him first pop up there several months ago.