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Really stupid question
james_nicoll
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Is it possible to commit cultural appropriation against one's own ancestors?

The chain of thought that led to this:

Someone expressed a desire online for white people to stick to their own gods. I immediately thought "hard to do in practice, because most of the indigenous religions in Europe got utterly crushed by an import from the Middle East, which has been then adapted by the locals to suit their needs". Then I thought about attempts to revive some of those dead religions, attempts that have not always been as thoroughly researched as they could have been and whose products perhaps would appear not entirely authentic to people from the cultures that originally came practiced those religions. That looks to me like this bit from wikipedia:

Cultural appropriation is the adoption of some specific elements of one culture by a different cultural group. It denotes acculturation or assimilation, but often connotes a negative view towards acculturation from a minority culture by a dominant culture. It can include the introduction of forms of dress or personal adornment, music and art, religion, language, or social behavior. These elements, once removed from their indigenous cultural contexts, may take on meanings that are significantly divergent from, or merely less nuanced than, those they originally held.

Particularly that last sentence. I mean, imagine the Druids of old meeting some bunnies'n'light modern pagans who call themselves Druids. I think at the very minimum harsh words would be exchanged. On the other hand, it's completely impossible for them to meet and that probably makes the difference. I don't think "extinct" falls within the set of "minority". Therefore I'd lean towards "no, not in a meaningful sense of the term."

This quote in particular seems pertinent:

According to Zuckermann, although the revivalists wished to speak Hebrew with Semitic grammar and pronunciation, they could not avoid the Ashkenazi mindset arising from their European background. He argues that their attempt to deny their European roots, negate diasporism and avoid hybridity (as reflected in Yiddish) failed. "Had the language revivalists been Arabic-speaking Jews (e.g. from Morocco), Israeli Hebrew would have been a totally different language – both genetically and typologically, much more Semitic. The impact of the founder population on Israeli Hebrew is incomparable with that of later immigrants."[4] Zuckermann says that a hybrid is a sign of richness and vigour rather than impurity or contamination.

I have read that there are two main ‘dialects’ of Hebrew, which may as well be labelled Occidental and Oriental. The Occidentals come from a European focus, tend to borrow words from Yiddish and other western languages, and have difficulty with semitic phonemes like 'ayin (a shibboleth of Occidental Hebrew is that 'ayin and alef are both pronounced as alef). Oriental Hebrew is influenced by Arabic, and features more words borrowed from Arabic and a phonemic difference between 'ayin and alef. And, of course, there are vocabulary borrowings between the two.

But then, as I only know a couple of words of Hebrew, this is all hearsay.

There are definitely differences in the way Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews pronounce classical Hebrew: the one I tripped over the most growing up was tav-without-a-dagesh. In Sephardic Classical (and all Modern) Hebrew, it's pronounced like "T" is in English; in Ashkenazic pronunciation of classical Hebrew, it's pronounced like "S". These days the Ashkenazic pronunciation is dying out, because in deference to Modern Hebrew even American Ashkenazic classical Hebrew classes use the Sephardic pronunciation.

Yeah. My family, who are Askenazi, sent me to a Hebrew school that teaches the modern Israeli (ie, Sephardic) accent, and learned the Sephardic pronunciations for the handful of prayers we actually used. It was fun listening to my father slip up and use the wrong accent during the seder.