james_nicoll ([info]james_nicoll) wrote,
@ 2008-12-03 15:53:00
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Nothing to do with the ongoing events in Ottawa
Last night I saw a first: not only had one line of traffic on Queen entered into the Queen and Charles intersection and then had to stop in the intersection when the light at Queen and Joseph turned red but the opposing line of traffic did the same thing and got stopped in the intersection when the light at Queen and King turned red. This made them doubly effective at blocking the flow of traffic up and down Charles Street when the Charles Street drivers got the green at Queen and Charles.

The local cops could finance their pension plan simply by posting someone with a ticket book at Queen and Charles in the late afternoon.

That stretch once saw the slowest hit and run ever, where the interval between the cars colliding and the errant driver leaping into their car to race away was long enough for them to have got out of their car, exchanged names, phone numbers, addresses and insurance info with the other people and then panicked when a passenger said their neck hurt. I do not believe it was a particularly effective hit and run as evading responsibility went. As I recall, one of the people who reads this LJ was a direct witness to that event.


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[info]theweaselking
2008-12-04 12:32 am UTC (link)
I don't believe your story - not because of the traffic stories or the hit and run, but because I have been to K-W, and I do not believe that there are, in fact, two streets in that city that are not named "King" and yet still cross.

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[info]mjlayman
2008-12-04 02:38 am UTC (link)
LOL On my way back from getting my glasses adjusted today, I was at a very major intersection, in the right-hand lane of two left-turn lanes, when the guy at the start of the left-hand left-turn lane crept over in front of our lane, and then DIDN'T GO WHEN THE LIGHT CHANGED. He wanted to go straight and had to wait for our light to go red and the main one to go green and then for an opening. Boy, there was a lot of honking.

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[info]narmitaj
2008-12-04 10:32 am UTC (link)
had to stop in the intersection

Don't they have something like yellow boxes at intersections that you're not allowed to enter unless the exit is clear?

I haven't been to Canada but if I was ever in Ottawa and due to get a ticket I would like to get it at the junction of Nicholas/Waller, my real name being Nicholas Waller. Maybe I would be accused of giving the first false name that popped into my head. Better than calling myself Queen Charles.

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[info]kraig
2008-12-04 12:15 pm UTC (link)
There's a line, over which you are not supposed to cross unless you can clear the intersection before a red. You are not supposed to cross it if you can safely stop and the light is already yellow. Only one car is supposed to cross it at a time.

In KW, even if we did have such a box, people would gaily proceed right on past it. If you could possibly cram yourself into the intersection but don't try, even if there are already four or five people there already, the VERY IMPORTANT PERSON behind you in the Audi or Porsche SUV or Mercedes will honk impatiently, then roll their window down and yell at you.

So no, no such boxes, but we do have rules about entering intersections which are ignored at every occasion, and people who do observe the rules while driving are honked and/or yelled at, tailgated, and otherwise harasssed.

There are many things to like about this city, but fellow citizens behind the wheels of motor vehicles are definitely not one of them.

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[info]kraig
2008-12-04 12:15 pm UTC (link)
"there are already four or five people there already"
s/already// - sigh.

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[info]narmitaj
2008-12-04 12:59 pm UTC (link)
The box junction works pretty well, and it is pretty obvious.

We have remarkably little hooting of any sort in the UK, even in somewhere like London. I was a kid in Lebanon, where the definition of the shortest possible period of time was the time between the lights going green and the driver behind going BEEP.

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[info]kraig
2008-12-04 01:33 pm UTC (link)
The stop lines are pretty obvious here, as are yellow lights.

People just don't *care*. Because they're More Importanter Than You Are, And Definitely More Importanter Than Somebody Else's Safety.

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[info]julesjones
2008-12-05 11:09 pm UTC (link)
They obey the yellow box in your locale? I must come and visit, it would be quite the novelty to see anyone paying attention to a yellow box...

/me is feeling somewhat bitter and twisted after some months of watching the rush hour traffic around the Arndale Centre's labyrinth.

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