james_nicoll ([info]james_nicoll) wrote,
@ 2008-05-13 13:11:00
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Is there a formal term
For future settings where the setting is limited to one small region and only makes sense if one assumes the rest of the planet has been mysteriously depopulated so as not to take advantage of the setting's inherent weaknesses?

San Angeles in Demolition Man, for example, seems to be simultaneously incapable of defending itself and yet has not been occupied by Canadian troops pursuing our legitimate territorial claim to that region.


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[info]galbinus_caeli
2008-05-13 05:19 pm UTC (link)
"Crap"?

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[info]mamadeb
2008-05-13 05:31 pm UTC (link)
"Lazy"?

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[info]roseembolism
2008-05-13 05:32 pm UTC (link)
Badly written?

Or less snarkily, how about "Setting in a bubble" stories?

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[info]james_nicoll
2008-05-13 05:33 pm UTC (link)
How about "snowglobe stories"?

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[info]galbinus_caeli
2008-05-13 05:35 pm UTC (link)
I like that!

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-14 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Good.

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[info]oldsma
2008-05-13 05:41 pm UTC (link)
Pleasantville Scenario?


MAO

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[info]cmattg
2008-05-13 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Crystal Tokyo?

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(Anonymous)
2008-05-13 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps I misremember, but isn't that a setting where almost all of the world's population _has_ perished, or frozen, or something? And only those willing to be brainwashed, er, purified to be good CT citizens are revived?

Bruce

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[info]aries_jordan
2008-05-13 05:48 pm UTC (link)
I believe Mexico has the more legitimate territorial claim.

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[info]james_nicoll
2008-05-13 05:56 pm UTC (link)
There is now (but was not when DM came out) some precedent for Canadian/Mexican cooperative military manuevers in the US. As I recall, the NOLAns welcomed us as if not liberators then people with food.

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-13 08:45 pm UTC (link)
They said we could have it...

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[info]nexstarman
2008-05-13 05:53 pm UTC (link)
I thought the setting of 'Demolition Man' was a possible future in which Canada had already taken over the San Angeles overcity. Greetings and salutations!

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[info]james_nicoll
2008-05-13 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Our cops are not the cuddle-bunnies seen in the SAPD.

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[info]anzhalyumitethe
2008-05-13 06:04 pm UTC (link)
After Cocteau is done with them, they would be. Oh, they would be!

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[info]james_nicoll
2008-05-13 06:08 pm UTC (link)
You can't get there from here if "here" is the Sûreté du Québec. For one example.

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[info]keithmm
2008-05-13 06:44 pm UTC (link)
So our non-Canadian friends will understand:

When the military is seen as more level-headed and respectful of civil rights and people feel safer dealing with them than they do with the local cops...

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[info]anzhalyumitethe
2008-05-13 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Dude.

Cocteau cuddlebunnied the LAPD.

I am still going to put my money on the evil "brit."

If he'd done that with Oakland PD, I'd be looking for orbital Mind control lasers.

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[info]robertprior
2008-05-14 02:44 am UTC (link)
Not quite a fair comparison—the CAF are generally pretty decent chaps, especially if you leave the elite commando types at home.

The SQ, on the other hand, have a reputation as Canada's finest Third-World police force. Which is unkind, as many Third World police forces aren't as corrupt or brutal.

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[info]jhetley
2008-05-13 07:00 pm UTC (link)
The Canadian troops, being Canadians, are waiting for an invitation.

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[info]maruad
2008-05-13 08:22 pm UTC (link)
That and some reasonable airlift capability.

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-13 08:46 pm UTC (link)
No,the sequel.

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-13 08:44 pm UTC (link)
H.F.T.U.D.E.O.O.S.C.
Hollywood Forgot the Universe doesn't end outside of southern California.

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[info]ross_teneyck
2008-05-13 09:00 pm UTC (link)
The book that came immediately to mind upon reading your first paragraph was Gate to Women's Country.

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<em>Demolition Man</em>
[info]bpholden
2008-05-14 12:46 am UTC (link)
The movie is a ham-handed if amusing take on American suburban values. It is satirizing gated communities, housing convenants, nuiscance laws and, occasionally, is amusing about it.

Taking it seriously as a vision of the future strikes me as, well, odd. I mean, there is only one restaurant and it is Taco Bell.

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Re: <em>Demolition Man</em>
[info]robertprior
2008-05-14 02:45 am UTC (link)
I rather liked it—the only Stallone movie I enjoyed, actually. (But then, I liked Last Action Hero too.)

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